To contact the site email Dave davmckenz@aol.com or Sheila sheilan@bethere.co.uk .  Material has been received from Harry Parker (HGS 1936-40). Photos have been received from Mr. Parkinson (HGS Staff member 1960-67). These include an unknown Third Form 1960-61. Could you please let us know the name of the Form? Letters written by Major Jenkinson to pupils and staff of the first school at which he was Headmaster are now on the site's School History Section. If you have a Prefects photo for 1955-56 or 1959-60 could you please let the site have a copy? Thank you.

School Dinners

"Some ha' meat and nae can eat,
Some can eat and nae ha' meat,
But we ha' meat an' we can eat,
And so dear Lord we thank Thee."

Mr. Hamilton (Art master )

 

 

1. Sheila Kelsall
These are the memories which come to mind when dinners are mentioned. On Monday morning breaks we had to go and buy our Dinner Tickets for the week. Usually two half-crowns would be the cost, as the tickets were one shilling each for the 5 days. [That will puzzle younger visitors to the site!]
 

The grey rectangular tickets were on a roll, and dispensed by a prefect who put our money in a tin and dispensed change where necessary. After we had queued in all weathers outside the Dining Hall, we went up the steps, through the doors and turned right to encounter a table set at an angle in the corner. This is where we parted with our tickets by tossing them onto the table manned by a prefect. The longer everyone had to wait for entry, the more dirty, curled, folded, and generally tatty was the ticket. The First sitting was usually for the younger end of the school, and maybe entry was by forms. Continuing down the long side of the building, we approached the kitchen end of the Hall. Trestle tables were arranged in front of the entrance to the kitchen, and word had already travelled to us while we were outside as to what was on the menu. Fridays we knew would bring fish, but never chips. The nearest we came to chips was when the offering was roasted parsnips as a vegetable. They really looked like chips! A trolley on wheels with a middle shelf held a stack of dinner plates, and having chosen one, we progressed along the line of dinner ladies wielding ladles, large spoons and a huge aluminium jug of gravy.
Those ladies were jolly sorts, with rosy cheeks and grey permed hair peeking out of their white starched caps. They said things like-"did you know there are 23 eggs in that custard?" or, "eat your carrots and you'll be able to see in the dark". The Catering Supervisor was a very youthful looking lady compared with her staff, and we had no idea of the way she had to figure out how to present nutritional meals on a budget.
All we knew were our own likes and dislikes. Liver and onions, Steak Pie, Minced meat in gravy, Baked fish, "Frog Spawn" - Sago Pudding. Semolina with a dash of strawberry jam. Manchester Tart - a pastry base, then jam, then sponge, and served with custard. Everyone would be able to add to this as their memories select. The first incomers would then walk back down the far side of the Hall carrying a full plate, and occupy the first long tables by the door, which ran widthways across the room. By the time the room was full, those who came last did not have far to walk to their seats.
We stayed in line, sat, ate, and went line by line for seconds, or for the next course. Our exit was made in the opposite direction towards a trolley in the opposite corner to the ticket table. Slow eaters sometimes gave up rather than bear the silent gazes of everyone eager to get out and play, as the whole line of about 20 children could only be dismissed when all had finished. After a short clearing away procedure, the whole proceedings were repeated in the Second Sitting.
There was usually a member of staff on duty, exhibiting varying degrees of interest in the proceedings. I remember Mr Leonard rapping on a table for attention, and announcing that he was disgusted at the way some people were lacking table manners. He held up a fork, and turned it curved side upwards, to show how we should use it. He did not want to see anyone "shovelling" food into their mouths. There was always an effort to keep the noise levels down.
We never saw the washing-up, nor the preparation of the food. First-formers might hear a bit of clattering as the serving trays and containers were moved around, and of course they received the first aromas of cooking cauliflower or baked fish, being so near to the Dining Hall, but generally we acted as consumers pure and simple.
There were a few pupils who went home for dinner, but they missed so much!
Sheila Kelsall

 

2. Dave McKenzie
I too remember Mr. Leonard gaining our attention by rapping on the table. In fact the whole scene is still very clear to me. Where I was and where he was. I also remember having slices of bread instead of potatoes when the latter were in particularly short supply. After rugby matches, I remember pop, crisps and potted meat sandwiches. I think we had these with the opposition. A nice social touch.
Dave McKenzie
 

Go to the Index - Buildings Internal for a picture of the Dining Room interior when tablecloths were used. 

 

3. Frank Poskett
I also remember Mr Leonard doing his dinner patrol. I was sat next to Dave Law (1d 1955) when he was eating with just a fork. Mr Leonard said, "We will put yours in a trough tomorrow, Law." To which Dave replied, "Ok, so long as it's full, sir." Was that a faint smile we got from Mr Leonard?
Frank Poskett
 
 
 
4. Frank Morley
There was a time, at least up to 1960, when a prefect sat at the head of each table and served the food which was distributed to the tables in large metal containers. This was when it was a good idea, as a younger student, not to have crossed swords with the prefects!!!!! I think the meal was preceded by grace.
Frank Morley
 
5. Eric Jones
I can still remember my first school dinner at HGS. The pudding was apple dumpling which as I recall never appeared on the menu again all the time I was there. As one entered the Dining Hall, the girls were on the right and the boy's were on the left with the first table on the right being Staff. Each table was headed by a Prefect and seated 12-14 with 1st Form at the bottom acting as Scivvies to clear away dishes and to scavenge for extra food if possible.
 

There was an excess of boys over girls, so I remember being a scivvy on a girls' table headed by Margaret Townend, whose photograph appears on the website. Main meals tended to be of the meat and two veg. type (quantity rather than quality) with Shepherds Pie well to the fore. Puddings were of the following variety:
Wooden Leg - baked jam roll - a popular favourite and scivvies were guaranteed the Knob end - all pastry and no jam;
Spotted Dick - Sultana Sponge;
Jelly and Custard in summer;
Frog Spawn - sago; and always rice pudding.
Custard was eaten at one's peril and regularly we had the infamous Black Death - stewed prunes.
As I remember the school record for eating prunes was 41, by a lad from Grimethorpe called Johnny Orange. The scivvies were bringing in prunes from all over the room when he went for the record - I cannot recall it being broken while I was there. The Staff menu was much better than ours and when their trolley trundled from the kitchen to their table, it was like a scene from Oliver. As First Formers, we were amazed at the amount of food Mr Waters, Maths Teacher, was able to get onto his fork! There was a twist to school dinners in that you could take your own if you wished. These were consumed in the Domestic Science room at the end of the corridor next to the Main Hall. Crockery was supplied from the main Dining Hall. It was a Prefect's job to collect and return a basketful of this every day. I had a spell of about a year doing my own food and I remember that dried egg sandwiches figured prominently. As a Prefect, I finally graduated to having a table of my own in the Dining Hall, but the only scivvy I can remember was a cheeky young First Former by the name of Eric Sale.
To be fair, the kitchen staff worked miracles really, especially as things became in short supply towards the end of the war and the early years of peace. If I remember correctly, the head cook was Mrs. Cliffe who was the wife of the School Caretaker.
Eric Jones

 

6. Nova Websdale The New Dining System 1963
From the School Magazine 1963

After weeks of chaotic dining in the Main Hall, (and what appeared to be an inordinate number of tea-breaks on the part of the workmen) the new Dining Hall was at last pronounced finished; the prefects, suffering under the effects of a last minute briefing which had served to put them in an even more bewildered state than before - and those monitors of staff who had the misfortune to be staying for school dinner, shuffled sheepishly to their places at the head of a table (designated by the mystical sign of two knives and two forks, for since the tables were eight-sided, considerable arguments might arise over what exactly was the 'head').
 

Trying their utmost to look supremely confident, these martyrs to the cause of school meals closed their eyes while a horde of starving schoolchildren stormed round the tables and finally settled at one or another of them while the wild-eyed master on duty scuttled backwards and forwards collecting dinner-tickets, the 'heads of tables' found they had a vital decision to make - should they themselves serve out the food, and probably finish dinner somewhere in mid-afternoon, or should they leave it to their subordinates at the risk of an empty plate for themselves? And once this obstacle was surmounted, another, equally ominous, loomed up: which of these irresponsible plebeians seated round the table could possibly be expected to negotiate a path to the trolley, deposit the dinner plates and collect the pudding? Apart from these questions, other minor problems appeared
how to impress on the seven table members the necessity of finishing within a reasonable length of time from the final whistle how to persuade erring first-formers that the best way of transferring a damp cloth from one table to another is not to throw it and hit the recipient in the face and, last but not least, how to instruct them to lay the cutlery on the table so that, when the next 'sitting' arrives, they do not have to eat their pudding with a serving spoon and knife.

Considering how radical are the changes from the old system, everything appears to have run much more smoothly than anyone could have expected, and the opinion of the majority - a majority which probably does not include heads of tables - would seen to come out in favour of the new system. However, the Prefects can take consolation from one fact - even if they fail their examinations, their invaluable experience at the head of an H.G.S. dining-table would find them a job in anyone's kitchen-staff.
Nova Websdale, UVIA.

Can anyone add to this account?
Dave McKenzie


Sheila comments:
I was reading the account of the "new" Dining Hall set-up of tables and method of serving lunches, and it all seemed familiar. I think I returned to School on a visit - maybe Speech Day 1962/3?- and saw it all. Prefects were at the head of each table, and a new set of serving dishes had been introduced to be carried to each individual table, with the potatoes and veg. etc. placed on each plate by said prefect. My impression of this was that the movement of pupils around the room had increased greatly, as each table sent its own clearing and collecting 'runners' who had to weave among the other tables to reach the trolleys. The sound levels and sense of chaos were consequently much higher. We had always been chided for conversations during meals, but the necessary questions of, "Please, is there more pie," or "Would you like more custard? " meant that the decibel levels were greatly increased. There must have been a group of us who were visiting that day, as I recall we were given a table to ourselves at the kitchen-end of the Hall. I think we were served individually, by the Dinner Ladies who remembered us, but they seemed harassed somehow - probably dreading the massive increase in the washing-up to be done! (All those extra serving-dishes). I wonder how the amount of 'wastage' of food compared with the earlier system, as each serving dish would have a residue to be scraped away before being washed. Who would have decided on this major change of system? Local Authority, Head, Staff or Dining Room personnel?
Sheila Kelsall

 

7. Doris Watson
The thirties were a lean time for most families. We had never had school
dinners before. We sat waiting round the table for the master (Mr. Crossland) to come in. What seemed to me an enormous joint of beef placed in front of him. He carved and plates were passed round and we helped ourselves to vegetables. I don't remember how long this went on for but a new dining room was built and it was never the same again.
 
8. Richard Hancock
I remember paying 5 shillings for a strip of 5 tickets for lunch. I liked dinners so much that I once got caned by Russ Hamilton along with a group of others who persistently went late to dinner because it guaranteed we would have the extra food left over. It got to be an inconvenience for the dinner ladies who complained about our behaviour.
 
9. Stuart Walker
Some of the staff had school lunches served in the Dining Hall with the children, and they took it in turns to say Grace at the start and end of the meal. "Scoff" (Ivor Scourfield) the Latin master, always said a Grace in Latin, usually two words like "Dominum laudamus". But "Dickie" Hamilton (photo left) the Art master liked to air his Scottish roots, with this unusual grace:-

"Some ha' meat and nae can eat,
Some can eat and nae ha' meat,
But we ha' meat an' we can eat,
And so dear Lord we thank Thee."
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